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Can a custom PQ colour space with HDR multiplier be "verified"? [Fixed]

 
Author jonzener
ZRO
#1 | Posted: 29 Dec 2024 04:46 
Hi Steve,

I'm able to verify a LUT generated with a custom PQ colour space with modified nits fine without issue.
I select it as the Target Gamut and use Active LUT. It validates fine.

However if I try to do the same using a colourspace that has a multiplier (projection HDR), the target values shown in the EOTF graph when verifying against it are all unexpectedly low.

Is this a known limitation when using the multiplier function?
Is there a way validation can be approached that gives valid results?

Thanks for taking a look.

Take care,
-Jonathon

Validation example.
Validation example.
DV 130.208 NIT 250_bcs.txt Attached file:
Custom colourspace

 
Multiplier Validate_bcs.txt Attached file:
Validation

 

Author ebr9999
DPS
#2 | Posted: 29 Dec 2024 09:33 
If your target luma is set at 250 (the one you have declared in your ST2084), the validation comes correct:
updated target

Anyhow it looks like a bug .... as if I re-select your user colourspace, CS set it at 130, that looks wrong.

PS: your mulplixer value is slightly form the one CS calculates automatically selecting the profile: 1822 vs. 1820

Author jonzener
ZRO
#3 | Posted: 29 Dec 2024 13:57 
Thanks ebr9999!

Setting the target to 250 makes sense as that's the target of the custom colour space.

What is obvious in the morning is concealed at night.

: )

Thanks again!

The 130 it shows makes sense as that is the actual measured peak white nits of the profile.

Author Steve

INF
Male
#4 | Posted: 29 Dec 2024 21:13 
I'll flag that as a bug.
As far as I am aware, the Multiplier should be taken into account.

Steve
Steve Shaw
Mob Boss at Light Illusion

Author jonzener
ZRO
#5 | Posted: 29 Dec 2024 22:10 
I seem to remember that when you chose a PQ colour space as the target then this target peak luma was then statically set for the profiling. That always made chasing down a perfect verification a bit tricky as the peak was locked into the space. In a way, having it unlocked is useful, though having it default to the colour space target as a starting point makes sense as well.

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